Welcome to pt103.com, an Elco 80' PT boat resource site
Image based on Elco/B.O.S. outboard profile plan 496536, available at ptboats.org.
This website is now hosted gratis by oaksdata.com (hosts of web sites, applications, databases, E-mail, and groupware systems), and mirrored at pt103.gdinc.com through gdinc.com (Graphic Dimensions, Inc., owned by Dick Washichek, marketing tools and technical data for art and marketing services). Check out Dick's site for beautiful PT related artwork. Thanks Tom and Dick! 2013 note: The mirror is out of date due to complications from the addition of Google ads.
Dick Washichek, also webmaster of The PT Boat Forum site, has went through the expense of buying and then having microfilm rolls of Elco drawings scanned in. It is an amazing collection, details and ordering instructions can be found here: http://www.gdinc.com/microDVD-001.html. Dick also has another collection featuring content on Higgins 78’ PT boats, Bath Iron Works PT 810, Elco 70’ PT & PTC boats, Elco V-Drive, and a Packard Operating Manual available here: http://www.gdinc.com/microDVD-002.html. I now use these drawings extensively in my work, they have helped greatly. Get them while available. Some of the original microfilm was supplied by author and historian Dr. Al Ross. Al also creates accurate scale plans available here. Thanks guys! For the Elco 80', I created a guide to help locate specific drawings that can be found here.
If you are willing and able to help, there are 2 Higgins PT boat restoration projects that would be grateful to accept donations of funds and or time. PT 658 and PT 305. Check the web sites out and please help if you can.
Contact: elconaut at comcast dot net.
2018 April 26, toe rails for the 1/72nd scale 2018 Revell PT 109 kit added. See the 3D Printed Parts page.
2017 May 27, 3D printed .50 cal. right and left feed guns with the RSG (retracting slide group) cocking mechanism without the grips and triggers in 1/24th, 1/20th, and 1/16th scales added. See the 3D Printed Parts page.
2017 May 27, 3D printed .50 cal. right and left feed guns with the RSG (retracting slide group) cocking mechanism without the grips and triggers in 1/24th, 1/20th, and 1/16th scales added. See the 3D Printed Parts page.
2017 May 25, 3D printed day room cabin aft opening (PT 130 on) hatch added in 1/24th, 1/20th, and 1/16th scales added. See the 3D Printed Parts page.
2017 May 19, 3D printed .50 cal. right and left feed guns in 4 configurations added in 35th, 32nd, and 30th scales. They are available with the RSG (retracting slide group) cocking mechanism or the plain tube type, and with and without rear grips and trigger and safety. Images of both types of cocking mechanisms added, see the part listing on the 3D Printed Parts page.
2017 May 12, 3D printed .50 cal. right and left feed guns (no rear grips) for use with the Mark 17 turret mount and special setups like the acey deucey .50 / 20mm added. The barrel / jacket can be replaced easily with the Master Model brass ones if desired. This version has the RSG (retracting slide group) cocking mechanism, plain tube type coming soon. Versions with grips and triggers for deck guns coming soon. See the 3D Printed Parts page.
2017 May 12, 3D printed bow fairleads (no light) in 1/35th, 1/32nd, 1/30th, 1/24th, 1/20th, and 1/16th scales added. See the 3D Printed Parts page.
2017 March 1, PT Photos page added. This page has links to PT boat and related images found at the Naval History and Heritage Command website. Most of the images are available in high resolution. Specific boats are listed in numerical order.
2016 June 15, 3D printed chart house vents and location jigs in 1/72nd, 1/48th, 1/35th, 1/32nd, 30th, 1/24th, 1/20th, and 1/16th scales added. See the 3D Printed Parts page.
2016 May 29, 3D printed 30th scale parts for Dumas boats added. See the 3D Printed Parts page.
2016 May 28, 3D printed closed deck hatches in 1/72nd, 1/48th, 1/35th, 1/35th special, 1/32nd, 1/24th, 1/20th, and 1/16th scales added to the 3D Printed Parts page.
2016 May 7, 3D printed mooring bitts in 1/72nd, 1/48th, 1/35th, 1/32nd, 1/24th, 1/20th, and 1/16th scales added to the 3D Printed Parts page. A section regarding cleaning of Shapeways detail plastics has also been added.
2016 March 8, updated the list for Dick Washichek's Elco 80 drawing DVD: Elco_80_Microfilm_List.txt.
2016 January 19, 3D printed binnacles in 1/35th, 1/32nd, 1/24th, 1/20th, and 1/16th scales added to the 3D Printed Parts page.
2015 December 10 update: Some information on hull fittings added to the Hull page. Thanks to Daniele Klay for sending the results of his bailer research!
2015 November 16, 3D printed PT 109 / Elco 80' steering wheel pendant in 1/16th scale added to the 3D Printed Parts page. It is available in a variety of metals from raw brass to polished platinum, with chain loops of 4mm, 6mm, or 8mm.
2015 November 10, 3D printed throttle quadrant in 1/35th, 1/32nd, 1/24th, 1/20th, and 1/16th scales added to the 3D Printed Parts page.
2015 October 15, 3D Printed Parts page added.
2015 August 5, corrected and added additional chart house corner radius dimensions to the top view on the Bridge And Chart House page.
2015 June 6, Stu Hurley's PT 195 2nd page updated.
2015 May 28, Stu Hurley's PT 195 project is almost ready for paint, a 2nd page shows photos of his beautiful groundwork here: Italeri PT 109 PT 195 Build, Page 2.
2015 March 16, deck cleats for 3D printing in 1/35, 1/24, 1/20, and 1/16 scales are now available here: http://www.shapeways.com/shops/pt103dotcom. The towing bitt for PT 103-108 is also available in 1/35 scale.
2015 March 4, deck cleat added to the Assorted Deck Parts page.
2015 February 25, Assorted Deck Parts page added. Current parts are the PT 103-108 towing bitt, the mushroom vent, and foot rail.
2015 January 7, Italeri PT 109 PT 195 Build page by Stuart Hurley added (work in progress). Thank you for sharing your build and research work again Stu!
2014 April 11, gridded flash hiders updated on the .50 Cal page.
2014 April 8, .50 Cal Twin Mount Mark 17 gridded and detail drawings updated.
2013 December 21, updated aft, top, and starboard views on the day room cabin trunk page to show the rounded starboard aft corner post.
2013 December 16, added image showing woods used in construction on the day room cabin trunk page.
2013 December 5, updated rain guards over windows on all views on the day room cabin trunk page.
2013 December 3, corrected the grab rail locations on all views on the day room cabin trunk page. They were slightly too far inboard.
2013 November 24, corrected the supply duct layout and added the connecting duct for PT 103-162 on the forward view of the day room cabin trunk page. Also corrected section 2 on the Throttle Push Rod Deck Housing page. All images were updated.
2013 November 11, corrected life ring athwartships position on the day room cabin trunk top view, and vertical position on the port and starboard views.
2013 October 7, Stu Hurley graciously shared some finishing and weathering techniques he used on his beautiful model along with some example images. Check out this page: Italeri PT 109 Finishing Tips.
2013 September 30, images of the finished model added to a page on Stuart Hurley's Italeri PT 109 Build pages. Very well done Stu, your paint skills are impressive. Thank you for sharing your project with us!
2013 September 27, partial Day Room Cabin Trunk page added. Only port and starboard views are up.
2013 June 24, added instructions for scaling images, see the Scaling Tool page.
2013 June 9, Corrected an error on the Mast, routing for the anchor light cable was wrong. Image size was enlarged. General web site design was cleaned up.
2013 April 24, Elco 80' drawing DVD list updated.
2013 April 22, Italeri PT 109 Build and detailing page by Stuart Hurley added. Thank you for sharing Stu!
2013 March 26, helmsman's platform for PT 314-367 corrected. I had the top level with the base / water line, it should be parallel with the deck. See the Helm page.
2013 March 25, Italeri PT 109 detailing page added. It also lists some changes made to PT 103-196 and 314-367.
2013 February 22, Throttle Push Rod Deck Housing page added.
2013 February 22, Torpedo Tubes page added.
This is a resource site by Jeff Davidson for the building details of an Elco 80' World War II Motor Torpedo Boat (MTB) / Patrol Torpedo (PT) boat with leanings towards a 109 to 138 boat operating in the Pacific theater. The dimensional images found here are to help modelers create an accurate tribute to the boats and the men who sometimes gave up their lives serving on them, and to help preserve their history. They represent a best effort on my part, please confirm dimensions given here for yourself if errors cannot be tolerated. Images are for non-commercial personal use only, please obtain permission for any other use.
Number ranges for boats of this class, listed by production order, are 103-196, 314-367, 372-383, 546-563, 486-545, 731-760, and 565-624. There were quite a few minor and major changes made to them including during production ranges. Depending on available resources I'll try to include as many changes as I can. Please point out any errors you may find. Misinformation about PT boats is fairly common and something I don't want to be guilty of spreading.
While this site concentrates on the physical aspects of the PT boat, be sure to read the accounts on the veterans stories page and check other websites on the Links page to learn the stories of the men who served on them.
If you have, or know someone that has, any PT related images or items that you or they would like to donate please contact www.ptboats.org. They are dedicated to the preservation of all things PT. Even items like water damaged images can be valuable to history. I would also be grateful for scans of photos or manuals.
PT Boat Background
Japanese Planning Pearl Harbor
Patrol Torpedo boats were built during a war that changed the way of life for Americans virtually overnight. The population was thrust willingly into a role of background support for the troops fighting overseas. Both had an iron will, given by Pearl Harbor, to do what was needed to defend their country. Both did without where they could so that resources could be directed to the war effort. Rationing was in effect, the motto was: Use it all; Wear it out; Make it do; or Go without. Victory gardens were planted to help ease food shortages and its transportation load. Many manufacturers changed production lines, for example a can factory before the war now made depth charges. Meat, sugar, butter, coffee, and gasoline were some of the items rationed. The average driver was allocated 3 gallons of gasoline per week. The Civil Air Patrol was formed to help guard coastlines.
Wise words from the Smith Corp.
They were built almost entirely of wood. Raw materials were in short supply, especially those imported from regions under the cloud of war such as rubber and high demand materials like metals. One resource that America had plenty of at the start of the war was wood and they used it to best advantage in the construction of PT boats. Although it didn't grow in the US, their Mexican friends supplied them with much of the mahogany used throughout the boat as well as many other resources. And they still help, they were one of the first to send aid after hurricane Katrina hit.
Packard V12, 4M-2500
Besides being constructed of wood, the boats were relatively small and thus were not well received by many commanders used to having tons of steel under them. But it did not take long to change the perception of weakness that this created. With 3 supercharged Packard V-12 engines developing a total of 3,600 (4,500 by wars end) horsepower, they were quick, maneuverable, had a shallow draft, and were heavily armed. Roaming mostly at night they soon became the bane of the enemies war and supply craft, particularly in the Pacific Theater. They were grouped in squadrons, or RON's, that usually worked together patrolling inshore areas too shallow for warships with deeper drafts.
I've seen questions about their true effectiveness but the Japanese had no doubts. From a captured report dated December 6th 1943:
"They Were Expendable" still, M1917A1 "doughboy" helmet was replaced
between 1941-42 with M-1 "steel pot" type. "Zero" is actually a T-6 Texan.
PT boats were initially intended to torpedo capital Japanese ships, using the speed of the three Packards and its small size as advantages. The first eighty foot boats were armed with two twin Browning .50 caliber M2 aircraft machine guns and an Oerlikon 20mm Mark 4 cannon to use against enemy aircraft. They soon found more uses for the guns than just for anti-aircraft fire. One of their main targets became other shallow drafted vessels, namely Japanese troop and supply barges. These fed their many positions amongst the islands that made Allied advancement costly and difficult. When they could, unescorted barges would hug the shallow island coastlines to be under the protection of any shore batteries present and to avoid larger enemy vessels. But that didn't stop the PT boats that were able to go in after them. They were very successful at this, even with their torpedoes being useless on the shallow drafted barges. With the enemies resources cut off, Allied troops could hop over well entrenched enemy held islands without fear of reprisal although when approached these stranded men still fought on with a grim resolve. In some cases even after the war was over, usually because they hadn't heard the news.
The Allies priority was to stop Hitler so supplies could be scarce in the Pacific Theater. Pacific crews became adept at flexibility. Sometimes whatever the crews could scrounge up ended up on the decks. Along with changes made by the Navy, an individual boat could look quite different at different time periods. As the war went on, changes that proved especially effective were used on new boats coming from the factory.
37mm Anti-Tank Gun M3
Commonly installed were 37mm and 40mm cannons, rocket launchers, mortars, even bazookas and captured Japanese weapons were used. For example, by August 1st 1943 the 109 had mounted or was in the middle of mounting a M3 37mm single shot anti-tank cannon they had "found" onto the foredeck (a later 37mm widely used on PT's was an Oldsmobile M4 or M9 automatic cannon, sometimes salvaged from P39 Aircobras). Although there is no record of it ever being fired, it did end up helping save lives.
Update: Geary Sims let me know that the 37mm on the 109 was ordnance supplied and an official install that hadn't happened yet. The crew lashed the gun to the deck because leaving it on the dock while on patrol was not a good idea. Per Geary:
Reference the 37mm gun: Doing extensive research on PT 108 which also had the same 37mm gun, I found there are some myths. One, the 37mm anti-tank wasn't found, in fact there were 8 to 10 boats that had/were to have this mounting. It was an experimental mounting to see if the 37mm gun was effective against the Daihatsu barges. The guns came from and were mounted by members of the US Army 25th Infantry Division. From conversations with Dick Keresey and some of the 108 crew, Kennedy may have been the one who came up with the idea for the mounting.
Secondly, the newer mountings were not salvaged from P-39's. They were adapted by the Navy and the Elco plant to fit the PT Boats. The 108 received one plus the roll-off torpedoes.
The 109 was slated for the mounting of the 37mm on her return from that mission. That is why she had the lumber lashed to the deck. Didn't want to leave on the dock for it might not be there when they got back.
Thanks Geary! Geary also let me know to be careful with references since some photos were doctored to remove top secret equipment like radar masts, and misinformation was also spread.
The operation on the night the 109 met her fate is known as The Battle of Blackett Strait. It had been a confusing night with sporadic action, poor visibility, poor communications, and a questionable plan of attack. PT 109 was on patrol with the 162, part of a group of 15 boats going after four Japanese destroyers returning from a resupply run. With orders given for all boats that had expended their torpedoes to return to base, eleven had left including the only four with the newly installed radar. The thirteen men of the 109 found themselves creeping blindly on one engine searching for the enemy that they knew was close.
You may be wondering why the crew put themselves into a position of delayed response by shutting down the outboard engines with the enemy close. It was because of the poor visibility, and the luminescence of the Pacific's waters when stirred by the props made them almost as good of a target as they were during the day.
At about 0230 on the 2nd, a Japanese Fubuki class destroyer, the Amagiri, loomed up from the darkness bearing straight at the 109. Mistaken at first for another PT, it hit the 109 in front of the forward starboard torpedo tube and sliced her to between the center and starboard engines. It took 10 seconds to go from a quiet, albeit tense, night to being thrown into dark gasoline soaked waters with a huge enemy ship churning through them. Gasoline from the ruptured tanks burst into flames and burned two men, one of them badly. Two men were never seen again. Marney, manning the forward turret, and Kirksey, whose position at the time of the accident is unknown.
Luckily for the survivors, the Amagiri was traveling at about 40 knots and carried the bulk of the burning gas away with her wake. After burning for 15 minutes or so, the fire went out and the remaining crew went back to what was left of the 109, the bow section. They saw neither the 162 or the Amagiri again that night.From a 22 August 1943 official report
The men clung to the still floating, but slowly sinking, remains until 1400 the next day. A 2x8 piece of wood that was being used as part of the 37mm mount served as a float for two of the crew with poor swimming skills. Be sure to read the whole story, Lt. Kennedy showed true courage in the rescuing of the badly burnt crew member and in his subsequent night swims in shark infested waters whilst trying to effect their rescue. Check here for a great story about the action that night by the captain of the 105, Dick Keresey. Check here for an official report on the sinking.
According to the captured Japanese documents, the sinking of the 109 was not an accident:
Torpedo Tube - Early Boats
During the early part of the war the namesake weapon of these boats, the torpedo, was marginally effective at best. They would run too deep, explode early, or not explode at all. Since PT boats in the Pacific Theater operated mostly at night it was hard to tell misses from misfires so it took a while to figure out that the problem was the torpedo itself. Submarines relied on some of the same torpedo models and had similar results but the situation was not resolved for a good while. See this site for details. Also, the original torpedo tubes used by PT boats to launch them were very heavy, and the charge used for firing them created a visible flash. Later production had lightweight roll-off racks installed that were also retrofitted to earlier boats.
Elco 80' Construction
The Electric Launch Company was incorporated in 1892 and built electric powered pleasure craft. During World War I they built sub chasers for the British Admiralty, and then PT boats in WW II under the Elco Naval Division. After WW II they merged with sister company Electric Boat to form General Dynamics which decided to sell this division off in 1949. The old Elco plant in Bayonne N.J., then known as Electro Dynamic Motor Company, was destroyed by a fire on April 20th 1963. Another fire in 2002 finished the site off. The land had already been bought by developers when this happened so it was doomed anyway. Residential buildings were built. A boat lifting crane that survived the fires was restored in honor of Elco's contribution to the community and resides at a local park.
Elco used a technique of building the hull upside down then flipping it over for topsides construction. It wouldn't be practical for larger vessels but it was an efficient, and easier on the employees, method for this craft especially with the double planked hull. They were designed with modularity in mind for speed and efficiency of construction, "kitting" for assembly elsewhere, and for quick repairs. Laminating pieces requiring high strength, like engine bearers, allowed for strength without excess weight. Two straight beams called coamings run the length of the chart house, day room, and engine hatch, and are integral to the hull. These beams add strength and help seal water out since they rise up from the deck about 5 5/8". The top outsides are milled for a small amount of overlap with the plywood siding of the houses. A hatch in the chart house roof allows access to the fresh water tank located under removable floor sections. The day room roof and floor are also removable for access to the fuel tanks. Over 400,000 screws were used per boat.
Partial Elco 80' plan A-922, available at ptboats.org.
Elco produced PT boats quickly and with a high degree of craftsmanship. Although one of the PT boats nicknames was "plywood coffin", and plywood was widely used, other woods also had their place depending on their properties and availability. The image to the left is a partial of a Type Sections plan dated 14th Oct. 1941 showing some of the different woods used.
Many structural elements were made of mahogany because of its rot resistance, strength to weight, workability, and ability to take a hit without splintering as badly as other woods. Splintering had long been a problem on wooden war vessels, it is where the oath "shiver me timbers" comes from. Cannon and gun fire would shiver, literally "shatter" or "splinter", the vessels timbers causing injury to the crew as well as to the sails and rigging. The entire hull was planked with a diagonally laid layer of mahogany, then a layer of glued canvas ironed flat, then another layer of mahogany laid at right angles to the first layer.
A testament to the strength of these hulls was when PT 167 had a Japanese Kate's torpedo punch right through the side of her bow and continue out the other side without exploding, The tail section was left in the crew's head which was rather fitting. Not only did the 167 make it back to base (the same can't be said of the Kate since it hit the 167's antenna and crashed into the sea), she carried injured crew from an LCI (landing craft infantry) back with her. A more brittle wood might have shattered bad enough to sink her or been hard enough to explode the warhead. There's a good picture of the damage in the book US PT Boats of WW2. Concerning the pilot of the Kate flying so low, he probably knew the PT was too shallow drafted to set the torpedo off so he was trying to skip the fish off the water and catch the boat on the fly, or he did exactly what he was trying to do with the direct hit.
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